#Doom 2 revenant trial

The only things I hate marginally more than revenants are cacodemons. You only need to see one demo by an experienced player to see a beautifully choreographed fight in a chaos of projectiles and monsters. I do not enjoy playing such levels, but I would never say they were not used correctly - such maps usually take many hours of extensive playtesting and there is a lot of thought put into thing placement. And again, saying that the revenant was not designed to be used in packs is still a personal opinion. If there is a map with 50+ revenants, insufficient cover and no lower skill levels (playing on HNTR or even ITYTD is nothing to be ashamed of), then I just have to accept the fact that it was not designed for a player of my skill level. I do not agree that they are 'the most easily abused monster in Doom', this is just a personal opinion. They are one of the few enemies that have aged well, because they can still be challenging even after years of playing the game. I did not like them at first, but now I love them - it just takes some time and experience to truly appreciate them. They can actually creep in where zombies can (however it's possible to 'active lock' them by keeping within a very specific distance range. A single mistake in a chaingun cha-cha and you get an 80 HP rocket to the face.

Ridiculously low reaction/counterattack time.

Hard to hit accurately with hitscans, due to narrow sillhouette, unless you focus on sniping one.

That's not bad in itself if not that Revenants are usually among the last monsters standing even after large infights, so they will still be posing a threat. Two of them can kill or seriously cripple a Baron, while three will just gang-rape it. This manifests itself in infighting with other monsters: give a revenant the advantage of two cheap shots, and it can bring down a Knight with ease if the exchange is mostly projectyles.

Ridiculously high damage potential/health ratio.

Homing missiles, which can only be outrunned by a certain Hungarian player, as we all know.

That alone can be frustrating as fuck, especially considering the sheer numbers this monster is used. One-hit death for any unarmoured player <=80 HP.

Highest damage of any standard, single projectyle.

How about you? Do you share my hatred of the dreaded revenant? Discuss!Д®verything I have to say about revenants I already said in that other thread about them pretty recently. Thus I enjoy maps that have few or no revenants at all the most, hence why I almost never put any of them into my own maps (and when I do I make sure that it is done properly!).

I estimate that something like 70% of all of my rage quits can be blamed on revenants being used in a stupid or a bullshit fashion somehow in the map I am playing. Or you are in a empty room that suddenly gets filled with revenants and you can't flee because the doors behind are suddenly locked for some reason and there is no real way to avoid all of the missiles that isn't just based on dumb luck.

#Doom 2 revenant trial

You can walk into a room, and then suddenly you get attacked by lots of monsters including a revenant who starts shooting missiles at you so you try to kill him, except that you can't because the stupid level designer decided to put behind some corner where you can't get to him straight away unless you first pull off some crazy trial and error style movements that allow you to first kill the other monsters before you get blasted into bits so that you can then kill the revenant. This is largely because of the homing missiles. Not because it is a poor enemy per see, but because there is literally no other enemy that can as easily make a custom map/WAD unenjoyable or otherwise frusturating to play when used/placed on the map in a stupid or a unfair way. I can barely describe it in words just how much I hate and despise this enemy type.

While Doom 2 brought many great new things to the Doom universe, there is one thing it could have left behind completely without me caring one bit: Revenants.